After the recent changes to CF that let me cast it multiple times per mob, I've been disinclined to pick up Devour. Given now that I can target an undamaged body part with two castings per mob, is there any reason to pick up Devour?
Just FYI, simplicity isn't a concern for me unless Devour manages to heal more than 2-3 casts of CF.
Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 05:03 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 05:13 PM CST
There's a change coming to Devour that may make you inclined to give it a second look. Might be soonish, might be after Risen, dependent on a few variables.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 06:52 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 06:53 PM CST
Ooo. Juicy.
Even that aside I find Devour more mana efficient for very serious wounds than CF. And you can CF a corpse then use your last shot at it to Devour instead, or to hit a body part you destroyed when you killed it.
Thayet
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Even that aside I find Devour more mana efficient for very serious wounds than CF. And you can CF a corpse then use your last shot at it to Devour instead, or to hit a body part you destroyed when you killed it.
Thayet
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"But you must know that if corruption is powerful enough, it's not corruption at all — it's law. Unspoken, unwritten, but law." — Robert Jackson Bennett, City of Stairs
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 06:56 PM CST
Leaving simplicity aside as you requested, there are two scenarios where devour is useful today.
1. You have a single, very damaged body part to heal.
I've found devour's heals to be much stronger than CF regardless of how much mana I use. For example, if I explode a hand from sorcery I can heal it completely with one cast of devour (and therefore one corpse). With CF I need > 1 cast and > 1 corpse
2. You need to heal a body part that is destroyed on the corpse
Pretty self-explanatory, but if you're like me you get annoyed when you want to heal your chest but the corpse doesn't have one anymore.
CF is generally better for all other scenarios. I also like using devour at the end of a hunting trip to make sure I don't have any undetected lingering wounds or scars, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this helps.
1. You have a single, very damaged body part to heal.
I've found devour's heals to be much stronger than CF regardless of how much mana I use. For example, if I explode a hand from sorcery I can heal it completely with one cast of devour (and therefore one corpse). With CF I need > 1 cast and > 1 corpse
2. You need to heal a body part that is destroyed on the corpse
Pretty self-explanatory, but if you're like me you get annoyed when you want to heal your chest but the corpse doesn't have one anymore.
CF is generally better for all other scenarios. I also like using devour at the end of a hunting trip to make sure I don't have any undetected lingering wounds or scars, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this helps.
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/06/2016 10:07 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 12:43 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 12:52 PM CST
The change isn't going to affect the current numbers on the spell, it's just adding a beneficial little twist.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 01:02 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 01:58 PM CST
I think the ability to deal with disease and poison would be awesome, but thematically be more of a self extraction spell rather than the drain healing mechanic like CF/Devour. Maybe something like a metaspell for Blood Burst where you perform cut and then cast a spell that painfully pulls the disease out. Better yet, to pull out the disease you have to have a living target to dump it into.
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 05:19 PM CST
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/07/2016 07:31 PM CST
<Even that aside I find Devour more mana efficient for very serious wounds than CF. And you can CF a corpse then use your last shot at it to Devour instead, or to hit a body part you destroyed when you killed it.
That's odd, because at around 160+ circle I didn't even bother messing with devour because I found it inferior in almost every way in regards to healing power per cast. It does help if your lazy and getting those internals that you might not see. I just didn't wanna waste the spell slots on it since I didn't use it, even though I had plenty to spare.
That's odd, because at around 160+ circle I didn't even bother messing with devour because I found it inferior in almost every way in regards to healing power per cast. It does help if your lazy and getting those internals that you might not see. I just didn't wanna waste the spell slots on it since I didn't use it, even though I had plenty to spare.
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/08/2016 02:38 AM CST
>>it's just adding a beneficial little twist.
Guesses:
1) restores vitality and/or fatigue
2) can push vitality and/or fatigue past 100% (woo, gluttony!)
3) turns into a SV meta that also requires CF and can be usable on living mobs
4) turns you into PacMan
Uzmam! The Chairman will NOT be pleased to know you're trying to build outside of approved zones. I'd hate for you to be charged the taxes needed to have this place re-zoned. Head for the manor if you're feeling creative.
Guesses:
1) restores vitality and/or fatigue
2) can push vitality and/or fatigue past 100% (woo, gluttony!)
3) turns into a SV meta that also requires CF and can be usable on living mobs
4) turns you into PacMan
Uzmam! The Chairman will NOT be pleased to know you're trying to build outside of approved zones. I'd hate for you to be charged the taxes needed to have this place re-zoned. Head for the manor if you're feeling creative.
Re: Should I get Devour? on 01/08/2016 07:21 AM CST
>That's odd, because at around 160+ circle I didn't even bother messing with devour because I found it inferior in almost every way in regards to healing power per cast. It does help if your lazy and getting those internals that you might not see.
I have the same feeling in light of the new changes to CF. I still use Devour in my combat script due to the lower restrictions on target damage.
Condran Arkarm
I have the same feeling in light of the new changes to CF. I still use Devour in my combat script due to the lower restrictions on target damage.
Condran Arkarm