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Anyone have any thoughts on this movie? The trailer seems a little corny'ish, but it could be big?
~Maece
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Leather Suit.
The plot was stolen.
Oh, and the fight scenes sucked. I dont pay 7 dollars to see supernatural creatures have lame gun fights. I also found it funny a vampire needed cpr performed on them after nearly..drowning....
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
The plot was stolen.
Oh, and the fight scenes sucked. I dont pay 7 dollars to see supernatural creatures have lame gun fights. I also found it funny a vampire needed cpr performed on them after nearly..drowning....
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
> The plot was stolen.
LOL - that is probably the most stolen plot in history. Even Shakespeare stole it. I really can't hold that against the film - if it's lasted this many centuries and been stolen this many times, there must be something to it.
> Oh, and the fight scenes sucked. I dont pay 7 dollars to see supernatural creatures have lame gun fights. I also found it funny a vampire needed cpr performed on them after nearly..drowning....
/startrant
I freely admit I have always been a vampire fan, but the steady evolution of the vampire over the past decade or two has left me pretty disillusioned and disheartened. Dang it, vampires are undead creatures, not some alien life form! They aren't afflicted with some virus. They certainly don't need to breathe - as you pointed out. While I can see some of the facination with the Anne Rice version of vampires, I guess I'm just too old-fashioned. Give me some evil, undead, shape-changing, virtually invulnerable bloodsucker with the ability to charm the weak-willed and control the children of the night any day of the week! Or better still, give me some of the even older versions found in various folklores around the world. Some of those are nasssssty.
/endrant
- AGM Dartenian
Platinum Events Team
Gnome & Kaldar Champion
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LOL - that is probably the most stolen plot in history. Even Shakespeare stole it. I really can't hold that against the film - if it's lasted this many centuries and been stolen this many times, there must be something to it.
> Oh, and the fight scenes sucked. I dont pay 7 dollars to see supernatural creatures have lame gun fights. I also found it funny a vampire needed cpr performed on them after nearly..drowning....
/startrant
I freely admit I have always been a vampire fan, but the steady evolution of the vampire over the past decade or two has left me pretty disillusioned and disheartened. Dang it, vampires are undead creatures, not some alien life form! They aren't afflicted with some virus. They certainly don't need to breathe - as you pointed out. While I can see some of the facination with the Anne Rice version of vampires, I guess I'm just too old-fashioned. Give me some evil, undead, shape-changing, virtually invulnerable bloodsucker with the ability to charm the weak-willed and control the children of the night any day of the week! Or better still, give me some of the even older versions found in various folklores around the world. Some of those are nasssssty.
/endrant
- AGM Dartenian
Platinum Events Team
Gnome & Kaldar Champion
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
<<LOL - that is probably the most stolen plot in history. Even Shakespeare stole it. I really can't hold that against the film - if it's lasted this many centuries and been stolen this many times, there must be something to it.
>>
Im refering to "Love of Monsters", a short story put out by WW some time ago. I realize the Romeo/Julliette aspects, and forbidden love, but do yourself a favor and read the short story and then watch the movie (youll see what WW was thinking when they made a law suit against Sony, which I believe was settled out of court).
<<I freely admit I have always been a vampire fan, but the steady evolution of the vampire over the past decade or two has left me pretty disillusioned and disheartened. Dang it, vampires are undead creatures, not some alien life form! They aren't afflicted with some virus. They certainly don't need to breathe - as you pointed out. While I can see some of the facination with the Anne Rice version of vampires, I guess I'm just too old-fashioned. Give me some evil, undead, shape-changing, virtually invulnerable bloodsucker with the ability to charm the weak-willed and control the children of the night any day of the week! Or better still, give me some of the even older versions found in various folklores around the world. Some of those are nasssssty.
>>
I prefer the old world version of a vampire. While theres a number from liteature (Kings 'Salems Lot' has some great vampires in it), my personal type of vampire would be the antagonist from the first Vampire Hunter D. Ancient, devoid of emotion, a being that will crush you with its mind rather than dirty his hand by touching you.
I dont care for the new emotion filled "o god I have to live forever" whiney Anne Rice versions of vampires. I honestly think its a creation to cateer to the 16 year old "i hate my parents" goth culture boom that was big some time ago. I honestly dont think vampires are going to wear black clothes, write shallow poetry, and wear mascara. They are to busy being undead and hunting you.
[/rant]
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
>>
Im refering to "Love of Monsters", a short story put out by WW some time ago. I realize the Romeo/Julliette aspects, and forbidden love, but do yourself a favor and read the short story and then watch the movie (youll see what WW was thinking when they made a law suit against Sony, which I believe was settled out of court).
<<I freely admit I have always been a vampire fan, but the steady evolution of the vampire over the past decade or two has left me pretty disillusioned and disheartened. Dang it, vampires are undead creatures, not some alien life form! They aren't afflicted with some virus. They certainly don't need to breathe - as you pointed out. While I can see some of the facination with the Anne Rice version of vampires, I guess I'm just too old-fashioned. Give me some evil, undead, shape-changing, virtually invulnerable bloodsucker with the ability to charm the weak-willed and control the children of the night any day of the week! Or better still, give me some of the even older versions found in various folklores around the world. Some of those are nasssssty.
>>
I prefer the old world version of a vampire. While theres a number from liteature (Kings 'Salems Lot' has some great vampires in it), my personal type of vampire would be the antagonist from the first Vampire Hunter D. Ancient, devoid of emotion, a being that will crush you with its mind rather than dirty his hand by touching you.
I dont care for the new emotion filled "o god I have to live forever" whiney Anne Rice versions of vampires. I honestly think its a creation to cateer to the 16 year old "i hate my parents" goth culture boom that was big some time ago. I honestly dont think vampires are going to wear black clothes, write shallow poetry, and wear mascara. They are to busy being undead and hunting you.
[/rant]
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
>>Im refering to "Love of Monsters", a short story put out by WW some time ago. I realize the Romeo/Julliette aspects, and forbidden love, but do yourself a favor and read the short story and then watch the movie (youll see what WW was thinking when they made a law suit against Sony, which I believe was settled out of court).
WW also claims that Sony stole their ideas of vampires being strong, werewolves being weak against silver, and other very very silly things.
WW just wanted money..
WW also claims that Sony stole their ideas of vampires being strong, werewolves being weak against silver, and other very very silly things.
WW just wanted money..
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Eh, it depends on the type of vampire you speak of really. European vampires tend to be pathetic weaklings these days, the last good one I saw was in Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. And no, I don't speak of D, I'm talking about the antagonist. Can't remember his name off hand. Oh well.
No, if you want a truly powerful vampire you have to take a look at the chinese variety. Now THOSE things have power. Ye gods...fortunately I've never heard of them as being too terribly bent on taking over the world or anything. Pretty laid back. Whew. ::grins::
Mekier Valiael, Defender of the Paladin Guild
Jheran Anseal, Seeker of the Ways
AIM: Etharion
No, if you want a truly powerful vampire you have to take a look at the chinese variety. Now THOSE things have power. Ye gods...fortunately I've never heard of them as being too terribly bent on taking over the world or anything. Pretty laid back. Whew. ::grins::
Mekier Valiael, Defender of the Paladin Guild
Jheran Anseal, Seeker of the Ways
AIM: Etharion
<<WW also claims that Sony stole their ideas of vampires being strong, werewolves being weak against silver, and other very very silly things.
WW just wanted money..
>>
They did nothing of the sort; read the short story, as well as the legal documents. Don't read Penny Arcade and think they actually did their homework on a subject. They tend to hear a complaint from one of their friends friends and write a comic about it.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
WW just wanted money..
>>
They did nothing of the sort; read the short story, as well as the legal documents. Don't read Penny Arcade and think they actually did their homework on a subject. They tend to hear a complaint from one of their friends friends and write a comic about it.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
Frankly, Underworld was a complete ripoff of the White Wolf series of games. You had a group of Toreador with a few non-Ventrue Ventrue leading the group going up against a high-rank Shadow Lords Ragabash (I'd assume) leading a ton of Bone Gnawers.
And the gun thing is something that makes a lot of sense. To begin with, guns are able to kill from a decent distance. More to the point, though, humans use guns to kill eachother. Humans do not use big freakin' claws to disembowel one another and (unless they're weird) rarely drain their victims of blood.
Drongol's Player, Werewolf Storyteller
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
And the gun thing is something that makes a lot of sense. To begin with, guns are able to kill from a decent distance. More to the point, though, humans use guns to kill eachother. Humans do not use big freakin' claws to disembowel one another and (unless they're weird) rarely drain their victims of blood.
Drongol's Player, Werewolf Storyteller
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
While I agree with that, if im fighting a lupine, I aint using a pistol. Further more, I would imagine as one of the undead I would have more going for me than good aim. Does this inhertily mean giant claws and melee combat? No. But trickery, mental powers (such as concealment, etc), and excessive speed come to mind. What we instead had was a few gun fights with the most interesting powers vampires had being able to fall (and land pretty) from high distances and 'burst of speed' for a split second. Not very impressive.
As per the Van Helsing movie, Im thinking it will be utter garbage, ala the Scorpion King (watching the previews, I honestly feel myself watching the same movie). Hopefully I will be wrong though.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
As per the Van Helsing movie, Im thinking it will be utter garbage, ala the Scorpion King (watching the previews, I honestly feel myself watching the same movie). Hopefully I will be wrong though.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
<<While I agree with that, if im fighting a lupine, I aint using a pistol.>>
Bear in mind that, by following the rules, an Elder vampire could, would, and should kill any level of Lycanthrope in a whopping 1 or 2 attacks. Underworld showed that fairly well.
<<No. But trickery, mental powers (such as concealment, etc), and excessive speed come to mind.>>
"Trickery" is a little vague, excessive speed does come into play, but mental powers are just out. One of the things that has always somewhat bugged me about V:TM is its insistence on giving weirder and weirder powers to vampires. To the general populace, a vampire is a random hot chick/Tom Cruise look-alike who wants to drink your blood.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
Bear in mind that, by following the rules, an Elder vampire could, would, and should kill any level of Lycanthrope in a whopping 1 or 2 attacks. Underworld showed that fairly well.
<<No. But trickery, mental powers (such as concealment, etc), and excessive speed come to mind.>>
"Trickery" is a little vague, excessive speed does come into play, but mental powers are just out. One of the things that has always somewhat bugged me about V:TM is its insistence on giving weirder and weirder powers to vampires. To the general populace, a vampire is a random hot chick/Tom Cruise look-alike who wants to drink your blood.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
<<Bear in mind that, by following the rules, an Elder vampire could, would, and should kill any level of Lycanthrope in a whopping 1 or 2 attacks. Underworld showed that fairly well.
>>
I agree, in WW an elder vampire is king. More potent than even mages or mummies (whom get overhyped).
But remember, that 'Elder' also died in a single blow, in possibly the most anti climactic finishing ive ever seen.
<<"Trickery" is a little vague, excessive speed does come into play, but mental powers are just out. One of the things that has always somewhat bugged me about V:TM is its insistence on giving weirder and weirder powers to vampires. To the general populace, a vampire is a random hot chick/Tom Cruise look-alike who wants to drink your blood.
>>
Personally, I like the mental trickery. I see Vampires amongst all the things that go bump in the night as a mix of power and elegance. You want a brute, you go with the wolf man, your frakenstein, etc. In WW there are plenty of potent physical beings. Vampires excell not only because of their physical prowess but their manipulation of their own curse. That inevitably means messing with things mental and emotional, such as greed, perception, respect, etc.
To bad locally no one runs a good V:TM table top or Larp.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
>>
I agree, in WW an elder vampire is king. More potent than even mages or mummies (whom get overhyped).
But remember, that 'Elder' also died in a single blow, in possibly the most anti climactic finishing ive ever seen.
<<"Trickery" is a little vague, excessive speed does come into play, but mental powers are just out. One of the things that has always somewhat bugged me about V:TM is its insistence on giving weirder and weirder powers to vampires. To the general populace, a vampire is a random hot chick/Tom Cruise look-alike who wants to drink your blood.
>>
Personally, I like the mental trickery. I see Vampires amongst all the things that go bump in the night as a mix of power and elegance. You want a brute, you go with the wolf man, your frakenstein, etc. In WW there are plenty of potent physical beings. Vampires excell not only because of their physical prowess but their manipulation of their own curse. That inevitably means messing with things mental and emotional, such as greed, perception, respect, etc.
To bad locally no one runs a good V:TM table top or Larp.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
<<More potent than even mages or mummies (whom get overhyped).>>
Mages are broken. Plain and simple.
Not because of how powerful they are, but because of how much they require the Storyteller to think. "I have Prime 2 and Forces 4. Can I create a holy baseball flying at 160 mph at something?"
Mummy is just stupid. And this is speaking as someone who likes mummy movies.
<<But remember, that 'Elder' also died in a single blow, in possibly the most anti climactic finishing ive ever seen.>>
I was just ticked that they saved the Elder for the vampire. I mean, c'mon, that's an Abomination he's taking on. And it's in Glabro, to boot.
<<Personally, I like the mental trickery.>>
Eh, "trickery" is a lot different from "causing the Brujah to become my willing servant for a period of a year just because he heard my voice and I'm that darned sexy." No, I don't play a Toreador...
<<To bad locally no one runs a good V:TM table top or Larp.>>
No such thing as a good LARP.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
Mages are broken. Plain and simple.
Not because of how powerful they are, but because of how much they require the Storyteller to think. "I have Prime 2 and Forces 4. Can I create a holy baseball flying at 160 mph at something?"
Mummy is just stupid. And this is speaking as someone who likes mummy movies.
<<But remember, that 'Elder' also died in a single blow, in possibly the most anti climactic finishing ive ever seen.>>
I was just ticked that they saved the Elder for the vampire. I mean, c'mon, that's an Abomination he's taking on. And it's in Glabro, to boot.
<<Personally, I like the mental trickery.>>
Eh, "trickery" is a lot different from "causing the Brujah to become my willing servant for a period of a year just because he heard my voice and I'm that darned sexy." No, I don't play a Toreador...
<<To bad locally no one runs a good V:TM table top or Larp.>>
No such thing as a good LARP.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
<<I was just ticked that they saved the Elder for the vampire. I mean, c'mon, that's an Abomination he's taking on. And it's in Glabro, to boot.
>>
Since to my knowledge Abominations tend to lack gen, an Elder vampire should honestly still win. Celerity 6+/Potence 6+/Fortitude 6+, and we arnt even into clan specifics. Quietus 6+ can do some very nasty things (although most are admitedly only workable on vampires, but you get the idea). He should win, no contest.
<<causing the Brujah to become my willing servant for a period of a year just because he heard my voice and I'm that darned sexy." No, I don't play a Toreador...
>>
Table top Presence is kinda stupid. I prefer Larp versions of Presence, where things rarely last beyond a scene. Now..."ELDER" presence...yeah thats a different can of worms.
<<No such thing as a good LARP.>>
I like the rules.
I hate the people that play them.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
>>
Since to my knowledge Abominations tend to lack gen, an Elder vampire should honestly still win. Celerity 6+/Potence 6+/Fortitude 6+, and we arnt even into clan specifics. Quietus 6+ can do some very nasty things (although most are admitedly only workable on vampires, but you get the idea). He should win, no contest.
<<causing the Brujah to become my willing servant for a period of a year just because he heard my voice and I'm that darned sexy." No, I don't play a Toreador...
>>
Table top Presence is kinda stupid. I prefer Larp versions of Presence, where things rarely last beyond a scene. Now..."ELDER" presence...yeah thats a different can of worms.
<<No such thing as a good LARP.>>
I like the rules.
I hate the people that play them.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
<<Since to my knowledge Abominations tend to lack gen, an Elder vampire should honestly still win. Celerity 6+/Potence 6+/Fortitude 6+, and we arnt even into clan specifics.>>
Who needs the nasty "add-ins," to be honest? Silver sword + 6 actions + 5 instant levels of unsoakable agg = bad juju. Of course, an Elder Werewolf could theoretically have all kinds of scary stuff, but eh.
<<Table top Presence is kinda stupid.>>
Presence is kinda stupid. And it's ridiculously powerful. And it's getting my PC all sorts of willing servants. But hey, it's nowhere near as stupid as Vicissitude, Obtenebration, or Tremere in general.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
Who needs the nasty "add-ins," to be honest? Silver sword + 6 actions + 5 instant levels of unsoakable agg = bad juju. Of course, an Elder Werewolf could theoretically have all kinds of scary stuff, but eh.
<<Table top Presence is kinda stupid.>>
Presence is kinda stupid. And it's ridiculously powerful. And it's getting my PC all sorts of willing servants. But hey, it's nowhere near as stupid as Vicissitude, Obtenebration, or Tremere in general.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
<<I like the rules.>>
Frankly, rules don't matter much to me. What matters more is the general feel of the game and whether or not you have a good group.
<<I hate the people that play them.>>
This is exactly the problem. Basically, your typical Vampire LARP consists of 15-30 overweight, bespotted individuals sitting around in WOB (wearer-of-black) attire, pewter jewelry, and enough angst to create its own reality TV show. Add to this that very few of these groups have an area large enough to accomodate them and you get little would-be goths going around scaring kiddies on the streets.
That said, I did have one memorable time LARPing. A friend of a friend needed a "solid" RPer to do an NPC for him, and I was recruited. The plotline was just that I was passing through the city and that my presence alone would potentially be disastrous.
Of course, he wanted me to be a Malkavian Methuselah, so the suspicions were pretty valid.
The group all meets up. Lots of black hair, pale makeup, the works. I show up, fresh off a 14-hour shift at the pool, sun-and-chlorine-bleached hair, dressed in my father's ridiculous golf outfit, complete with the socks pulled up to my knees and little froofy hat. I then spend most of my "time" in the game practicing my putts. 100 yards off the rough ain't too bad, after all.
I got so many evil looks for "spoiling" the feel of the game that it was worth being attacked over it. Of course, a nine iron ain't a bad weapon in a pinch, and woods can stake a vampire pretty well with enough Potence behind it.
It was stupid. It was scary. It violated everything that LARPing stood for. And I loved it.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
Frankly, rules don't matter much to me. What matters more is the general feel of the game and whether or not you have a good group.
<<I hate the people that play them.>>
This is exactly the problem. Basically, your typical Vampire LARP consists of 15-30 overweight, bespotted individuals sitting around in WOB (wearer-of-black) attire, pewter jewelry, and enough angst to create its own reality TV show. Add to this that very few of these groups have an area large enough to accomodate them and you get little would-be goths going around scaring kiddies on the streets.
That said, I did have one memorable time LARPing. A friend of a friend needed a "solid" RPer to do an NPC for him, and I was recruited. The plotline was just that I was passing through the city and that my presence alone would potentially be disastrous.
Of course, he wanted me to be a Malkavian Methuselah, so the suspicions were pretty valid.
The group all meets up. Lots of black hair, pale makeup, the works. I show up, fresh off a 14-hour shift at the pool, sun-and-chlorine-bleached hair, dressed in my father's ridiculous golf outfit, complete with the socks pulled up to my knees and little froofy hat. I then spend most of my "time" in the game practicing my putts. 100 yards off the rough ain't too bad, after all.
I got so many evil looks for "spoiling" the feel of the game that it was worth being attacked over it. Of course, a nine iron ain't a bad weapon in a pinch, and woods can stake a vampire pretty well with enough Potence behind it.
It was stupid. It was scary. It violated everything that LARPing stood for. And I loved it.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
<<Frankly, rules don't matter much to me. What matters more is the general feel of the game and whether or not you have a good group.
>>
When I mean I like the rules, I like the balance between them. I look at table top and some things are just clealry better than others, while in larp its not 'as' bad (there are some problem areas).
<<Larp story>>
Heh, im particularly against their (Larpers) giant egos and melodrama. They all think they are misunderstood artists (well, atleast the vast majority I met). Makes me want to beat most of them with a base ball bat called reality.
Larp would be great, if larpers wernt aloud to play.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
>>
When I mean I like the rules, I like the balance between them. I look at table top and some things are just clealry better than others, while in larp its not 'as' bad (there are some problem areas).
<<Larp story>>
Heh, im particularly against their (Larpers) giant egos and melodrama. They all think they are misunderstood artists (well, atleast the vast majority I met). Makes me want to beat most of them with a base ball bat called reality.
Larp would be great, if larpers wernt aloud to play.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
eh it was defintately the leather suit, the movie was horrible. I think perhaps one of the worst things about the movie was that you could see that it had so many chances to turn itself back around, and completely/constantly made the wrong choices
Vidumavi exclaims, "Wait!"
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If you liked the mummy or mummy II, it was good (I did see it).
If you expected it to have an ounce of horror and the such, save your money.
If you wanted to see vampires go around fighting eachother but wernt in the mood for horror, go rent Helsing (anime).
They should have gotten Bruce Campbell for the lead.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
If you expected it to have an ounce of horror and the such, save your money.
If you wanted to see vampires go around fighting eachother but wernt in the mood for horror, go rent Helsing (anime).
They should have gotten Bruce Campbell for the lead.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
It was decent action fare as long as you didn't go in expecting something earth-moving.
My main problems were:
1. Way too much CG stuff.. takes believeability and scariness away from the monsters.
2. I laughed at times when I probably wasn't supposed to be laughing
3. Atrocious acting
All that said, could I please have Van Helsing's crossbow?
~Caneghem Urathi
My main problems were:
1. Way too much CG stuff.. takes believeability and scariness away from the monsters.
2. I laughed at times when I probably wasn't supposed to be laughing
3. Atrocious acting
All that said, could I please have Van Helsing's crossbow?
~Caneghem Urathi
Who the hell is WW?
Willie Wonka? Woodrow Wilson? William Wallace? Walt Whitman? Wonder Woman?
Brittany (...the curious player of Aspasia Undojen'pelci)
"If ever the Darkness should conquer the Light, the last gleam shall come from the uplifted blade of one of a righteous Paladin."
Sir Cleworth, paladin initiation speech.
Willie Wonka? Woodrow Wilson? William Wallace? Walt Whitman? Wonder Woman?
Brittany (...the curious player of Aspasia Undojen'pelci)
"If ever the Darkness should conquer the Light, the last gleam shall come from the uplifted blade of one of a righteous Paladin."
Sir Cleworth, paladin initiation speech.
<<Who the hell is WW?>>
The terminology refers to White Wolf games, the company which, up until recently, published the "World of Darkness" serioes of games. Essentially, it was a "gothic horror" roleplaying genre in which the core books allowed one to play a Demon, Witch Hunter, Changeling, Mummy, Wraith, Werewolf, or, most commonly, Vampire.
You then get to run around and, assuming you're playing Vampire, plot against your fellow PCs and hope to do nasty, nasty things to them, all the while attempting to cooperate against your common enemies.
It's a rather fun series of books/games, although I prefer Werewolf to the others.
I would have to watch Van Helsing before I commented on any links between it and White Wolf's product lines, but there is a noticeable difference between the "typical" Hollywood Vampire/Werewolf and White Wolf's. Put simply, if you've watched Underworld, you've seen a somewhat typical White Wolf stir-fry game.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
The terminology refers to White Wolf games, the company which, up until recently, published the "World of Darkness" serioes of games. Essentially, it was a "gothic horror" roleplaying genre in which the core books allowed one to play a Demon, Witch Hunter, Changeling, Mummy, Wraith, Werewolf, or, most commonly, Vampire.
You then get to run around and, assuming you're playing Vampire, plot against your fellow PCs and hope to do nasty, nasty things to them, all the while attempting to cooperate against your common enemies.
It's a rather fun series of books/games, although I prefer Werewolf to the others.
I would have to watch Van Helsing before I commented on any links between it and White Wolf's product lines, but there is a noticeable difference between the "typical" Hollywood Vampire/Werewolf and White Wolf's. Put simply, if you've watched Underworld, you've seen a somewhat typical White Wolf stir-fry game.
Drongol's Player
PC also stands for "Paying Customer."
<<The terminology refers to White Wolf games, the company which, up until recently, published the "World of Darkness" serioes of games.>>
Ahh, say no more. I'm fairly familiar with White Wolf gaming.
<<You then get to run around and, assuming you're playing Vampire, plot against your fellow PCs and hope to do nasty, nasty things to them, all the while attempting to cooperate against your common enemies.>>
Heh, when I worked in a coffee shop in a small dated downtown area of Dover, we had a comic book store directly across the street from us. Now this street was very narrow, and the buildings were all built like in the late 1800's, so basically the opposite side of the street was like 20 yards from the front window of the cofee shop. You got a good vantage point of the goings on in there. It was especially entertaining at night when the comic store would close and gamers would gather after hours to play White Wolf. We'd watch and laugh our asses off at some of the most bizarre stuff we'd ever seen. Grown men chasing each other around a table with empty paper towel rolls, and with paper bags over their heads. My god it had to be the most retarded thing I ever saw. Since then I vowed never to try live roleplaying, simply because you can't do it and not make yourself look like an idiot.
<<It's a rather fun series of books/games, although I prefer Werewolf to the others.>>
Actually you're right it is a fun series, if used for basic paper and pencil RPing. But the live stuff...I dunno.
Brittany (...the player of Aspasia Undojen'pelci)
"If ever the Darkness should conquer the Light, the last gleam shall come from the uplifted blade of one of a righteous Paladin."
Sir Cleworth, paladin initiation speech.
Well yeah if you went to watch it with high expectations, after I got a look at one of the vampires in a preview I went to watch a fun movie.
As to Underworld, it is one of the more enjoyable vampire movies that I have seen in a long time, other then Blade.
The one movie that I'm putting high hopes for this summer is going to be Aliens vs Predator. That should rock.
Shandarilli,
Paladin of Urrem'tier
As to Underworld, it is one of the more enjoyable vampire movies that I have seen in a long time, other then Blade.
The one movie that I'm putting high hopes for this summer is going to be Aliens vs Predator. That should rock.
Shandarilli,
Paladin of Urrem'tier
I went to Van Helsing with low expectations honestly. I had lots of friends tell me it was right up my alley since I like B movies and such.
I did like Underworld though and the Blade movies are still among my favorite vampire movies as well.
Course, I did watch Breeders (bad 80's flick) over the weekend which actually held my interest longer than Van Helsing did.
~Maece
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I did like Underworld though and the Blade movies are still among my favorite vampire movies as well.
Course, I did watch Breeders (bad 80's flick) over the weekend which actually held my interest longer than Van Helsing did.
~Maece
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