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Below is a log. This is with 50 mana. I tried from 15 up to 50 with same result (singular ape to control variables). No buffs up. Appraising an ape, looks like it has about 55 agil/refl, which using the equation on elanthipedia means my SvA OF is higher than it's SvA DF (unless of course equation is wrong, which is likely). 50 mana though.. single ape. Saddened. Same for 1-4 apes.
Strength : 45 Reflex : 65
Agility : 55 Charisma : 40
Discipline : 80 Wisdom : 55
Intelligence : 55 Stamina : 50
You also see a black ape.
Obvious paths: east, northwest.
R> ass
You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a black ape (1) at pole weapon range.
A black ape (1: nimbly balanced) is facing you at pole weapon range.
The old bone lands nearby!
> cast
An old bone crumbles and sinks into the foilage.
>
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The black ape is blasted backwards, but maintains its footing.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
Seems incredibly underpowered. 57 mana cast (min prep plus 15 mana harness 3 times). I couldnt knock down an already badly balanced malchata. And the RT seems to be around only 5 seconds. I never used it before, so I guess it isnt any big loss, although, with all the guilds having their get-out-of-web free card, I'm rather surprised we are the guild to lose ours...
You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a s'sugi malchata (1) at melee range.
A s'sugi malchata (1: badly balanced) is facing you at melee range.
[P]R>cast
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The s'sugi malchata is blasted backwards, but maintains its footing.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
[P]R>ass
You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a s'sugi malchata (1) at pole weapon range.
A s'sugi malchata (1: badly balanced) is facing you at pole weapon range.
Falker
You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a s'sugi malchata (1) at melee range.
A s'sugi malchata (1: badly balanced) is facing you at melee range.
[P]R>cast
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The s'sugi malchata is blasted backwards, but maintains its footing.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
[P]R>ass
You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a s'sugi malchata (1) at pole weapon range.
A s'sugi malchata (1: badly balanced) is facing you at pole weapon range.
Falker
<<It's a standard SvA spell with no penalties/bonuses, so if it's underpowered all SvA is underpowered.
If you say so. But, If you are saying someone with my stats should have trouble casting an SvA spell, being that I'm almost at the cap for SvA, then I think there is a problem with SvA, yes. However, I'm going to assume, since I dont have any trouble casting min prep HB (also an SvA spell) at malchata, I'm going to assume there is perhaps a bug or a flaw with griz claw making it not work correctly, or that it is in-fact under powered. Especially taking into account that SvA takes balance largely into consideration (the critter was badly balanced at the time), I'd say something is either wrong with the spell, or it needs a big uptweak to be usable.
Casting a max prep griz claw nets the same result as the previous 57 mana cap.
If there is a suggestion, or a test you'd like me to perform, please let me know.
Falker
If you say so. But, If you are saying someone with my stats should have trouble casting an SvA spell, being that I'm almost at the cap for SvA, then I think there is a problem with SvA, yes. However, I'm going to assume, since I dont have any trouble casting min prep HB (also an SvA spell) at malchata, I'm going to assume there is perhaps a bug or a flaw with griz claw making it not work correctly, or that it is in-fact under powered. Especially taking into account that SvA takes balance largely into consideration (the critter was badly balanced at the time), I'd say something is either wrong with the spell, or it needs a big uptweak to be usable.
Casting a max prep griz claw nets the same result as the previous 57 mana cap.
If there is a suggestion, or a test you'd like me to perform, please let me know.
Falker
>It's a standard SvA spell with no penalties/bonuses, so if it's underpowered all SvA is underpowered.
Does HB get a bonus? Or BB? Because I get a rather nice web with a decent chance of falling over (or ok stun) with min prep on the same apes I'm getting a minimum success knockback with max cast. All 3 spells being SvA correct?
Does HB get a bonus? Or BB? Because I get a rather nice web with a decent chance of falling over (or ok stun) with min prep on the same apes I'm getting a minimum success knockback with max cast. All 3 spells being SvA correct?
<<You realize Malchata can't be knocked down, and thus you'll never see anything but the lowest tier of success on them, right?
Funny, I've actually never noticed that in the long time I've been hunting them, lol. (you can even sleep them and they still arent prone, interesting). Are apes the same way then? It sounds like Yuoree is having the same problem over there.
Even with the fact that they cant be knocked over, it seems a little unfair to get the lowest tier of success. At the very least, we should be able to unbalanced them somewhat. At least in my opinion.
Falker
Funny, I've actually never noticed that in the long time I've been hunting them, lol. (you can even sleep them and they still arent prone, interesting). Are apes the same way then? It sounds like Yuoree is having the same problem over there.
Even with the fact that they cant be knocked over, it seems a little unfair to get the lowest tier of success. At the very least, we should be able to unbalanced them somewhat. At least in my opinion.
Falker
This spell doesn't deal with unbalance. It provides a knockback, an RT (you do get the higher RT), and a knockdown.
That's a potent package for a tier 2 AoE disabler.
Apes may very well be set to 'no knockdown'. The sad truth is that not everything in the game does very well at adhering to the 'no knockdown rule', but this spell does.
-Z
That's a potent package for a tier 2 AoE disabler.
Apes may very well be set to 'no knockdown'. The sad truth is that not everything in the game does very well at adhering to the 'no knockdown rule', but this spell does.
-Z
It worked on this try, no idea why this one random try. 60 mana (tried others at 60 also)
You feel fully prepared to cast your spell.
> > >
The black ape moves into a position to dodge.
> ass
cast
The black ape moves into a position to dodge.
> You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a black ape (3) at melee range.
A black ape (1: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A black ape (2: nimbly balanced) is flanking you at melee range.
A black ape (3: nimbly balanced) is facing you at melee range.
A black ape (4: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
(You are also defending against a black ape.)
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
You feel fully prepared to cast your spell.
> > >
The black ape moves into a position to dodge.
> ass
cast
The black ape moves into a position to dodge.
> You assess your combat situation...
You (solidly balanced) are facing a black ape (3) at melee range.
A black ape (1: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A black ape (2: nimbly balanced) is flanking you at melee range.
A black ape (3: nimbly balanced) is facing you at melee range.
A black ape (4: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
(You are also defending against a black ape.)
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
First of all. I love the spell now. It's useful and different and well its SvA AOE which provides a good disabler with swarm not working.
Now my other observations. I'd love for the min prep to be lowered if possible, and the intown thing removed. If not it is fine but its one of those things were i see ranger magic being penalized uneededly. I understand the restrictions is really about guild identity, but the way i feel right now is there is no hard set rule behind why some areas are flagged town/neutral/wild.
Anyways thanks for making grizzly claw worthwhile to have.
As for apes.
Apes seem to have about 55 ot 60's in their stats, so that might be why they're so hard to knockdown looking at your stats. At 30 mana I can knock them down just fine.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec
"So like I said, don't take it personally. All cultures have their share of fools. It's just that we always felt yours had a lot more than ours."
~~Warrior Mage Guild Leader Senfrislor, The Prydaen in Their Own Words~~
Now my other observations. I'd love for the min prep to be lowered if possible, and the intown thing removed. If not it is fine but its one of those things were i see ranger magic being penalized uneededly. I understand the restrictions is really about guild identity, but the way i feel right now is there is no hard set rule behind why some areas are flagged town/neutral/wild.
Anyways thanks for making grizzly claw worthwhile to have.
As for apes.
Apes seem to have about 55 ot 60's in their stats, so that might be why they're so hard to knockdown looking at your stats. At 30 mana I can knock them down just fine.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You roar and draw your arms back. A dark, transparent blue glow ripples down your arms, crackling with the muted growl of a bear as it shapes itself into two large claws.
You lash out with both arms, sending a concussive wave of blue force outwards all around you!
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The black ape is blasted backwards, falling onto its rump.
The bluish energy forming the claws disperses into the air after the attack.
Roundtime: 2 sec
"So like I said, don't take it personally. All cultures have their share of fools. It's just that we always felt yours had a lot more than ours."
~~Warrior Mage Guild Leader Senfrislor, The Prydaen in Their Own Words~~
