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So, I'm not entirely sure i understand the pretend title requirements. I pretend ranger and as per posted requirements thieves sub 140% perception for scouting. To my understanding, that means a ranger title that requires 100 scouting means i need 140 perception to obtain. There are some ranger titles that i should have using this formula if the posted requirements are correct. So either i dont understand the requirements or the posted requirements for some titles are definitely wrong. Anyone able to at least clarify this for me? Not necessarily looking for a solution...just enlightenment. Thanks
>requirements thieves sub 140% perception for scouting. To my understanding, that means a ranger title that requires 100 scouting means i need 140 perception to obtain.
No, the reverse. If a ranger title needs 140, you only need 100.
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No, the reverse. If a ranger title needs 140, you only need 100.
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Ah, ok. That would make titles even easier to get. Are some titles exempt from thief pretending then? I've been trying for the Trailmaster title for awhile and started getting suspicious after i hit 250 perc and still didnt have the title.
Trailmaster
At least 175 ranks in Scouting
At least 150 ranks in Perception
(copied directly from dr site) i'm currently sitting at around 320 perception and still dont have this title...
Trailmaster
At least 175 ranks in Scouting
At least 150 ranks in Perception
(copied directly from dr site) i'm currently sitting at around 320 perception and still dont have this title...
That would make sense. Charisma is a stat i have been slacking on due to no immediate benefits at my current circle. I knew Charisma affected titles with spell requirements, but that is kind of a vague requirement and not really worth my tdps at the moment.
On a different note, thanks for all the help with responses to my posts today Astarin1. Just came back from a long break and i'm falling back into the groove relatively well, but so much has changed since i left that i have a lot of what may seem simple questions. The help has been much appreciated.
On a different note, thanks for all the help with responses to my posts today Astarin1. Just came back from a long break and i'm falling back into the groove relatively well, but so much has changed since i left that i have a lot of what may seem simple questions. The help has been much appreciated.
| requirements thieves sub 140% perception for scouting. To my understanding, that means a ranger title that requires 100 scouting means i need 140 perception to obtain. |
| No, the reverse. If a ranger title needs 140, you only need 100. |
The OP was correct and Caraamon is incorrect.
Ranks subsitution are done to make it harder for a thief using the pretend title than it is for the guild that normally gets it.
Charisma is used to as a replacement for abilities.
| Instead of Primary Magic skill, a 125% Hiding skill requirement was used. Stalking skill was used where other Magic skills were necessary. Charisma is used in place of spell requirements. |
So for, titles that need 100 PM a thief needs 125 Hiding
There are a few titles in the war mage section that I should be eligable for since I have titles for ones with exact same rank requirement. Titles are just old and should be fixed in 3.0
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>The OP was correct and Caraamon is incorrect.
Heh, as he phrased it, I was correct. I just didn't bother to look up what the reality was.
If you substitute 140% of b for a, you get b*1.4=a
As a side note, the real requirement is grammatically odd.
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Heh, as he phrased it, I was correct. I just didn't bother to look up what the reality was.
If you substitute 140% of b for a, you get b*1.4=a
As a side note, the real requirement is grammatically odd.
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>>That would make sense. Charisma is a stat i have been slacking on due to no immediate benefits at my current circle. I knew Charisma affected titles with spell requirements, but that is kind of a vague requirement and not really worth my tdps at the moment.
Confidence, confidence and confidence. Oh, and also you seem to be able to plead innocent a bit more often and have it believed I think? Oh, and dont forget confidence, its fairly important.
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Confidence, confidence and confidence. Oh, and also you seem to be able to plead innocent a bit more often and have it believed I think? Oh, and dont forget confidence, its fairly important.
-O
<< Confidence, confidence and confidence. Oh, and also you seem to be able to plead innocent a bit more often and have it believed I think? Oh, and dont forget confidence, its fairly important.
With 70 Charisma your fines have to be well into the multiple plat range for PLEAD INNOCENT to even become a 50/50 proposition.
With 70 Charisma your fines have to be well into the multiple plat range for PLEAD INNOCENT to even become a 50/50 proposition.
Oh, dont get me wrong, i wont be ignoring charisma for much longer. At the moment i'm just trying to get most of my stats to 30, agil/reflex/disc to 40 and then charisma will start getting built up because by then i'll start wanting my bonus for lockpick carving purposes at the very least.
>Trailmaster
>At least 175 ranks in Scouting
>At least 150 ranks in Perception
>(copied directly from dr site) i'm currently sitting at around 320 perception and still dont have this title...
Being very familiar with pretending to be a ranger, I can tell you that several of the ranger title requirements are not as straight-forward as the the info on the DR website may lead you to believe. A rather common trait among ranger titles is the requirement of both Scouting and Perception. I can't say for a fact that this is universally true, but it seems that skills that are used as a substitute for other skill reqs, but also have their own req, will themselves be substituted by yet another skill, if that makes any sense.
In your example, because your Perception is being applied towards the Scouting requirement, a different skill will be used for the Perception requirement. Most of the time it is Backstab at 125%, though I recall perhaps seeing Stalking or Hiding used like this as well in some cases. I'm also fairly sure that when Hiding is used as a substitute for another skill and there is also a Hiding requirement, Stalking will substitute for Hiding. As others have mentioned, there are also just some oddball ones that don't seem to follow any rhyme or reason and completely contradict the reqs posted on the site.
I bet once your Backstab hits 187 or 188 (I forget how the rounding works), you'll have access to the Trailmaster title. If I'm wrong about it being Backstab in this case, I am 99.9% certain the title will become available to you when one of your other survival skills hits 187/188, just keep an eye out for which one and you'll have figured it out. Additionally, I can also say that Evasion, Foraging, Skinning, Climbing, and Swimming requirements are nearly always at 125% of what a ranger needs, and 5 or 10 circles usually get added to any minimum-circle reqs.
>At least 175 ranks in Scouting
>At least 150 ranks in Perception
>(copied directly from dr site) i'm currently sitting at around 320 perception and still dont have this title...
Being very familiar with pretending to be a ranger, I can tell you that several of the ranger title requirements are not as straight-forward as the the info on the DR website may lead you to believe. A rather common trait among ranger titles is the requirement of both Scouting and Perception. I can't say for a fact that this is universally true, but it seems that skills that are used as a substitute for other skill reqs, but also have their own req, will themselves be substituted by yet another skill, if that makes any sense.
In your example, because your Perception is being applied towards the Scouting requirement, a different skill will be used for the Perception requirement. Most of the time it is Backstab at 125%, though I recall perhaps seeing Stalking or Hiding used like this as well in some cases. I'm also fairly sure that when Hiding is used as a substitute for another skill and there is also a Hiding requirement, Stalking will substitute for Hiding. As others have mentioned, there are also just some oddball ones that don't seem to follow any rhyme or reason and completely contradict the reqs posted on the site.
I bet once your Backstab hits 187 or 188 (I forget how the rounding works), you'll have access to the Trailmaster title. If I'm wrong about it being Backstab in this case, I am 99.9% certain the title will become available to you when one of your other survival skills hits 187/188, just keep an eye out for which one and you'll have figured it out. Additionally, I can also say that Evasion, Foraging, Skinning, Climbing, and Swimming requirements are nearly always at 125% of what a ranger needs, and 5 or 10 circles usually get added to any minimum-circle reqs.
