please give us path of frost we're masters of the elements yet survival tert! no more floundering in the water let's freeze it and walk on it :D

I can see a spell that bonuses athletics for the purpose of swimming by modifying the currents, but we're not powerful enough to completely freeze raging rivers. Deal with it. It could even have an Earth meta-spell that adds on climbing by providing better footholds/handholds. The bonus isn't likely to be much larger than SuF's climbing bonus is now, I think.

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>That doesn't mean every guild should get them.

I think more variety in every guild can only be a good thing. They've already established limits on how much you can boost something not in your "area of focus", so who cares if every guild has a bunch of spells that poorly bonus a single skill? Most people won't take them because the bonus will be too small to justify the spell slot. Some people will take the ones they feel are helpful (like athletics), and others will get a rune/scroll to cast a better one.

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>>Sphere of Influence cares about the caster, not the spell. A WM casting Shadows is still going to be dealing with the WM sphere penalty.

If a guild has a spell that bonuses a certain skill, is it logical to assume that skill is within that guild's Sphere of Influence?

What would seem weird to me is if Warrior Mages had a Perception boosting skill but Perception was not in their Sphere of Influence, and a Ranger casted that same Warrior Mage's spell and got a bigger bonus because Perception is in a Ranger's Sphere of Influence.

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>No. I'd wager that Misdirection is an example of such a spell.

I'd wager Rising Mists is another example.

Elemental Lord Opieus, Master Warrior Mage of Elanthia
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>Nope, and it does mean that some guilds could get more out of the spell than the guild that actually possesses it.

This makes me hope for more spell scrolls in the future. Perhaps as a part of the new enchanting crafting system.

>>Also, this reminds me: Rangers can already do this. I wonder if that beseech is going to be taken away/changed also?

Yeah I was about to say that.

Ironically it'd actually be less show of force to freeze the top of a river than it would to shift the current. But the latter would be a better option because of the direction guilds are going.

Except in extreme environments such as in Antarctica rivers usually don't freeze solid, just the surface though the ice layer can be quite thick, enough to drive extremely heavy loads over it. But the ice can still crack and you can still fall through.
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