Raggler and I were discussing armor, robes, casters, and food and somewhere during the converstion we came up with the following idea for an armor skill.

Skill Name: Casters Robes
Mnemonic: robes
Other Requirements: None.
Available to: All
Prerequisites:
None
Armor Point Cost:
Rank 1: 20 - Robes ASG equivalent to Light Leather (ASG5)
Rank 2: 30 - Robes ASG equivalent to Full Leather (ASG6)
Rank 3: 40 - Robes ASG equivalent to Reinforced Leather (ASG7)
Description: Adjusts and hardens a person's robe armor so that it better protects the wearer. Provides an ASG boost of (2 + Rank) to Robes.


The main idea behind this is that it would encourage/allow more casters to wear robes and look like casters instead of going with leathers for the superior protection. Current approach for this today is to wear leathers and then wear armor concealing robes over them.

-- Faulkil

That's not really a valid comparison. Using the proposed skill would allow you to wear robes instead of casting leathers, for example, with really no technical advantage. 1 or 2 points of combat manuever penalty difference is all that comes to mind with the tradeoff being that you couldn't wear ultra-lightened leather for the encumberance benefit. A caster can wear casting leathers today without any real penalty - keeping in mind that they would have already reduced the minor penalty that does exist by training in more than 50 additional ranks armor to get this skill. This skill would simply allow them to wear robes instead of ligher leather but still have the protection level of the lighter leather armor they can already wear.

Bumping any armor other than robes by three classes would have some pretty significant benefits by comparison.

-- Faulkil

I also don't see where this fits in as a CMAN skill

I would think a CMAN skill should provide an alterior motive to wear lighter armor (ie: robes) vs simply making a certain type of armor improved which would fall more under ARMOR specialization skills.

-James-
player of Fremie

Mirayam says, "You are not a rogue, sir."

Mirayam exclaims, "You are noble!"

woops I see that now, for some reason I read CMAN skill..

my bad! carry on.

However, I think something like Armored Fluidity might be appropriate for the pures and other semis.

Give rangers Armored Stealth

Give bards Armored Evasion

The armor training required and maximum possible armor ranks should be limiting enough for this to not be terribly overpowering.

-James-
player of Fremie

Mirayam says, "You are not a rogue, sir."

Mirayam exclaims, "You are noble!"

>Bards should get fluidity as the most magical of the semis.
Keith/Brinret

Yeah..

Take away the only use a Paladin has.

-farmer

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That's just what we want, criss-crossing furrows all over the town streets from someone wandering through with their animated plow super buddy.

-Strath

Bards should get fluidity as the most magical of the semis.

Keith/Brinret

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As the most magical of semis shouldn't they be wearing robes then?

You're arguing to get a skill that fuses the physical world with the magical world via a physical ability.

It would make more sense for you to argue bards should have 1603 as a spell, as that would at least fuse physical and magical via magic.

Dgry

<<If it were changed to 20% per rank I think it would actually be competitive with fluidity.

It was changed from 10% to 15% specifically for this reason.

~Mikoguchi Chydenar; Jackal Corps.

I'd take armored casting as a ranger, but yeah fluidity is better.


-Drew/Chiv

A raggedly-dressed lass lopes by, slowing long enough to whisper, "The smuggler's cutter 'Live Bait' just pulled into Glok's Pier!"
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Paulydee exclaims, "Boats are here!"

Gotta weigh in and say Paladins should remain the only ones with fluidity for the reasons mentioned above.

I'll take Nature's Fury if we're calling Dibs.

I've got the Summoning lore for it too!