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Armor has changed a lot over the last few years...so I've got questions. I'm an "old-school" character. I know my armor skills don't resemble what they should now-a-days, but I'm looking to fix that. I'd like to train LC and it seems that using HC accessories seems to be the norm now? I'm definitely ok with that and welcome the tdps. Without buying any forged equipment what should I be using? I have a full body suit that is the old shard stuff...literally bought the day shard came out. My shard balaclava and gauntlets are on another account that I don't care to reopen right now so I really need head/hand gear but I can't afford anything forged. The prices are out of my ability to purchase at this time.
Here are my skills:
>app my chain careful
You are relatively certain you could fit into this armor.
The flat-black chain is light chain.
The chain looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that some flat-black chain appears to impose high maneuvering hindrance and moderate stealth hindrance, offering:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing some flat-black chain your maneuvering would be lightly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently moderately hindered and your stealth is very hindered.
You are certain that the flat-black chain is moderately strong, and is in pristine condition.
The flat-black chain is made with metal.
The flat-black chain is fairly flexible.
The flat-black chain feels pretty heavy.
You are certain that the flat-black chain is worth exactly 1650 lirums.
And here is the chain I'm currently using:
>app my chain careful
You are relatively certain you could fit into this armor.
The flat-black chain is light chain.
The chain looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right arm
left arm
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that some flat-black chain appears to impose high maneuvering hindrance and moderate stealth hindrance, offering:
good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing some flat-black chain your maneuvering would be lightly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently moderately hindered and your stealth is very hindered.
You are certain that the flat-black chain is moderately strong, and is in pristine condition.
The flat-black chain is made with metal.
The flat-black chain is fairly flexible.
The flat-black chain feels pretty heavy.
You are certain that the flat-black chain is worth exactly 1650 lirums.
And lastly, as an armor tert guild...what shield is usable that isn't forged?
>And lastly, as an armor tert guild...what shield is usable that isn't forged?
There are no forged shields. As armor tert, if you want to wear it on the arm, you have to stick to small. If you can't afford a tanned croc skin buckler, I'd probably just stick with a good old goblin dropped target shield. Actually, with the changes to goblins, do they still drop these? I dunno, haven't been back Crossing ways really since all that was changed.
There are no forged shields. As armor tert, if you want to wear it on the arm, you have to stick to small. If you can't afford a tanned croc skin buckler, I'd probably just stick with a good old goblin dropped target shield. Actually, with the changes to goblins, do they still drop these? I dunno, haven't been back Crossing ways really since all that was changed.
>>And lastly, as an armor tert guild...what shield is usable that isn't forged?
Any small shield, such as the ordinary or target. The traders have access to some nice shields too.
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
Any small shield, such as the ordinary or target. The traders have access to some nice shields too.
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
My favorite all store-bought chain setup is the following:
Ogdaro
| WHAT | WHERE | WHY |
| double-linked chain tunic | Seli's Armory, Riverhaven | LC chest/abs/back |
| serpentine chain greaves | Bantheld's Ironworks, Riverhaven | HC legs |
| serpentine chain vambraces | Bantheld's Ironworks, Riverhaven | HC arms |
| visored chain helm | Bantheld's Ironworks, Riverhaven | HC head |
| mail gloves | Tembeg's Armory, The Crossing | neutral chain hands |
Ogdaro
i was hunting with another person, and we're both curious why he keeps repeatedly getting beat up in combat MUCH worse than i was (i would walk out with scrapes and bruises, they came out with no less than 4 bleeders) i wear tanned leathers, they wear forged LC with HC gloves and a neutral helm. our skills are roughly equal, my agility and reflex are a bit higher than theirs, but not so high as to account for such a large difference in wounds. this is their LC hauberk:
The chain hauberk is light chain.
You feel certain that a chain hauberk appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and moderate stealth hindrance, offering:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing a chain hauberk your maneuvering would be insignificantly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
You think it is likely that the chain hauberk is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.
The chain hauberk is made with metal.
The chain hauberk is somewhat pliable.
The chain hauberk feels pretty heavy.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is worth exactly 1623 dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
is there a different armor setup that may work better for them? frankly we're both quite confused and a little frustrated, so any help would be appreciated
The chain hauberk is light chain.
You feel certain that a chain hauberk appears to impose moderate maneuvering hindrance and moderate stealth hindrance, offering:
good protection and high damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and high damage absorption for slice attacks.
moderate protection and high damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing a chain hauberk your maneuvering would be insignificantly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
You think it is likely that the chain hauberk is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.
The chain hauberk is made with metal.
The chain hauberk is somewhat pliable.
The chain hauberk feels pretty heavy.
You are certain that the chain hauberk is worth exactly 1623 dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
is there a different armor setup that may work better for them? frankly we're both quite confused and a little frustrated, so any help would be appreciated
>There could be other factors involved like burden and combat manuevers. Is your hindrance the same as his?
Yeah... to even have the possibility of seeing why he's getting hurt more than you, we'd need to know what both characters total hindrance was, burden, stance, balance of weapon if parrying, protection of shield if blocking, etc... there are a ton of variables that could lead to one person getting hurt worse even with more protective armor and potentially even higher combat skills.
Yeah... to even have the possibility of seeing why he's getting hurt more than you, we'd need to know what both characters total hindrance was, burden, stance, balance of weapon if parrying, protection of shield if blocking, etc... there are a ton of variables that could lead to one person getting hurt worse even with more protective armor and potentially even higher combat skills.
hmmmm. he brawls alot, and also uses LT, so when he parries, normally he's catching it on a bola, a mallet, or a parry stick. he usually switches back and forth between parry and shield stance (he has a croc buckler on his arm)
i stay in shield stance most of the time unless i really really want to train some parry. normally i'm using a briquet, katar, or mallet (depending on my mood and what i'm trying to kill) altho sometimes i brawl also. and of course i'm not in shield or parry stance when shooting a bow.
this is him:
If you were only wearing a chain hauberk your maneuvering would be insignificantly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
this is me:
If you were only wearing some silver-studded black and scarlet firecat-skin leathers your maneuvering would be minimally hindered and your stealth would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
and he fights with no burden, and aside from armor, weapons, his pack, and a kilt, very little gear.
i start the fight with no burden, but usually by the time i walk out of a hunting grounds i'm at lightly or somewhat burdened from coins/gems etc. and i have a crapload more ...crap... than he does. (not including the 15 or so weapons i carry on a regular basis)
i have more primary weapon than he does, he has more shield than i do. we're within a few ranks of each other on practically everything else.
i stay in shield stance most of the time unless i really really want to train some parry. normally i'm using a briquet, katar, or mallet (depending on my mood and what i'm trying to kill) altho sometimes i brawl also. and of course i'm not in shield or parry stance when shooting a bow.
this is him:
If you were only wearing a chain hauberk your maneuvering would be insignificantly hindered and your stealth would be fairly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
this is me:
If you were only wearing some silver-studded black and scarlet firecat-skin leathers your maneuvering would be minimally hindered and your stealth would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered and your stealth is fairly hindered.
and he fights with no burden, and aside from armor, weapons, his pack, and a kilt, very little gear.
i start the fight with no burden, but usually by the time i walk out of a hunting grounds i'm at lightly or somewhat burdened from coins/gems etc. and i have a crapload more ...crap... than he does. (not including the 15 or so weapons i carry on a regular basis)
i have more primary weapon than he does, he has more shield than i do. we're within a few ranks of each other on practically everything else.
It could be stances, hindrance, burden, or any number of other things. Hindrance and burden are a range, and not absolutes. Reflex certainly plays a part, perhaps discipline as well, buffs, etc. It's very hard to compare two characters because it's apples to oranges, not apples to apples.
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If it helps, just think of yourself as the fluorescent light in the buglamp of life.
- GM Dartenian
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If it helps, just think of yourself as the fluorescent light in the buglamp of life.
- GM Dartenian
maneuvers can play a huge role in getting hit.
I went out to hunt the other day and nearly died. I couldn't figure out why. As I normally evade/shield block everything with anything from light to heavy burden.
Then I remembered I tried to tackle a friend 30 mins before.
Having "tackle" as my last combat maneuver really tore me up.
But yea, there is 100 different things that could be going wrong.
Words are things, and a small drop of ink, falling like dew upon a thought, produces that which makes thousands, perhaps millions, think.
- Lord Byron
I went out to hunt the other day and nearly died. I couldn't figure out why. As I normally evade/shield block everything with anything from light to heavy burden.
Then I remembered I tried to tackle a friend 30 mins before.
Having "tackle" as my last combat maneuver really tore me up.
But yea, there is 100 different things that could be going wrong.
Words are things, and a small drop of ink, falling like dew upon a thought, produces that which makes thousands, perhaps millions, think.
- Lord Byron
if your only in shield stance and not doing any attack maneuvers and your last attack is set to either dodge or parry. Your going to take a lot less damage.
Also stamina factors a bit into it, not so much evading but how hard of a hit you can take.
Theres also the question of buffs, depending on what you have up. Also if he's brawling and grappling, grappling causes a massive penalty to defences.
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Also stamina factors a bit into it, not so much evading but how hard of a hit you can take.
Theres also the question of buffs, depending on what you have up. Also if he's brawling and grappling, grappling causes a massive penalty to defences.
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