okay so I started a barbarian, went to hogs ran out scared for my life..went to rats and was getting hit??! Just thought it was strange that a Barbarian could barely parry a rat. Anyways, since reflex was reduced is it now pointless to train or rather would agility be more important then reflex now well atleast for aspect of not getting hit. I'm not entirely new to the game either as formerly a 30th prydaen warmage and 38th elven barbarian.
Well Hope someone has some insight.

Parry saw practically no change with the recent combat updates.

It's probably something else. Maybe you are using a weapon with terrible balance?

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I think what you are noticing is a result of a lower evasion check, not so much a hit on parry itself.

I could be wrong.

My stances were Parry 100% and Evasion 80% ...And Barbarians start with like 3 parry or 4 parry anyways to boot not to mention aren't we supposed to have a bonus to melee combat which in fact makes us harder to hit. Well I decided to check to see if it was just me and I had 5 rats on me a novice warrior mage walked in and I hid..Well the mage died trying to parry but it kinda further proved my point.. that and I didnt have to listen to him... What im really worried about though if this is a chain effect all the way down, that means I can't go straight to eels after goblins. I'm gonna have to find something in between and train. More or less though what about are melee bonus unless im terrible misdirected and there never was one.

Former Barbarian Amal

Wow, Nice way to get off topic, if you can't understand 4th grade writing don't post. The post was to further enforce the statements of other posts that stated the same problem with parry. Unless you didn't read. And the Warrior Mage forums has little to do with the Barbarians complaint folder. Anyways im doing a tad better I raised agility and reflex to 14 still seems a bit shabby though. Though someone earlier said there was hardly any change to parry and then someone said it was mainly to evasion. If evasion is the first thing to decide and allows you to parry better (Evasion took x% of the attack and parry defends against the left over % and x% is still left) something along those lines I imagine. Need more insight...

I'll chime in and say that I saw a hit to parry with the recent changes, but primarily on my low balance Blunts.

Nothing to make me cry but it was a change that I wasn't expecting because 'Parry was affected' by the reflex changes.

It would make sense if the evasion amount was reduced however and so parry had to compensate more.

I think anyone here who rolled up a new character and ran them through rats/hogs/unarmed gobs would be surprised how much gets through a 100% parry/80% evasion stance compared to what you're used to.

>>I'll chime in and say that I saw a hit to parry with the recent changes, but primarily on my low balance Blunts.

This is primarily why I think he's having so much trouble.

Bad balance really, really hurts parry.

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I still think what you're noticing is that a lot more hits are getting past evasion checks and it's not a parry issue.

Maybe I misread, but I don't believe parry was downtweaked in any way.

However, I can tell you from my experiences hunting that evasion has taken a much larger hit than some might see.

I believe this is part of a vast empath conspiracy to get more wounds to heal because I'm getting banged up left and right.

I've noticed that parry isn't nearly as effective, however shield is. With 42 ranks in parry, I can dance with maybe two eels without getting hit. However, when I switch to shield at 44 ranks, I can do up to 8 without being touched. However, I use a claymore, which are horribly balanced, but I don't intend on switching.

Guess it's time to make shield primary defense.

>>However, I use a claymore, which are horribly balanced, but I don't intend on switching.

If you used a R/R bastie parry would be better.

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>>Not in my experience with the current system. Thief, high agility, no armor, shield 10 ranks behind parry, using a cutlass or Jambiya. vs. 6 eels stanced shield never got touched. Stanced parry never blocked a durn thing.

I've never seen a cutlass or jambiya that is reasonably balance. They are both probably fairly.

The difference is probably most pronounced with a MM (both shield and parry tert) with access to an excellently balanced Moonblade, or if you have a Thief who has a backstabbing weapon ground for balance.

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