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When am I obligated to get favors?
I know I get five freebies while Circle 1, but how long do they last? How long can I conceivably stay Circle 1 and not need to get favors?
favors protect you from walking the starry road (starting over from scratch), technically as long as you don't die you don't need favors, but i recommend getting them as soon as you can
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>I would recommend just getting them anyways.
Not only are those five free deaths free, but you keep all your gear. Once you start using favors (even at circle 1), it's the normal grave mechanics. Typically with my youngsters, I'll just play until I'm ready to get 2nd circle, then I'll go get favors. I don't suggest staying circle 1 just for the free deaths, though.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Aren't I pretty, now fall down on my ice, fool! ~ Axillus
Not only are those five free deaths free, but you keep all your gear. Once you start using favors (even at circle 1), it's the normal grave mechanics. Typically with my youngsters, I'll just play until I'm ready to get 2nd circle, then I'll go get favors. I don't suggest staying circle 1 just for the free deaths, though.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Aren't I pretty, now fall down on my ice, fool! ~ Axillus
<<I don't suggest staying circle 1 just for the free deaths, though.>>
Currently I am still 1, I qualify for circle 7 or 8. I was going to make the push to 30 then do it all in one big dump and hit the TDP/Spell/Ability jackpot. But I am getting antsy.
Not sure if this is an appropriate question.
One reference says I need three ranks of my main weapon per circle, another says four, for circles 1-10. Which is correct?
Currently I am still 1, I qualify for circle 7 or 8. I was going to make the push to 30 then do it all in one big dump and hit the TDP/Spell/Ability jackpot. But I am getting antsy.
Not sure if this is an appropriate question.
One reference says I need three ranks of my main weapon per circle, another says four, for circles 1-10. Which is correct?
>I was going to make the push to 30 then do it all in one big dump and hit the TDP/Spell/Ability jackpot. But I am getting antsy.
The stats/spells/abilities will make getting there faster. No reason to stay at first circle, really.
>One reference says I need three ranks of my main weapon per circle, another says four, for circles 1-10. Which is correct?
Three.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Aren't I pretty, now fall down on my ice, fool! ~ Axillus
The stats/spells/abilities will make getting there faster. No reason to stay at first circle, really.
>One reference says I need three ranks of my main weapon per circle, another says four, for circles 1-10. Which is correct?
Three.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Aren't I pretty, now fall down on my ice, fool! ~ Axillus
>>Yeah, your right. I guess the neat factor of circling 29 times would be outweighed by actually using some abilities now.
Yep.
Also, the TDPs gained from circling 29 times will allow you to buy dozens of stat points which will help you circle faster. More wisdom/intelligence for bigger experience pulses, more strength and agility for more weapon damage and thus more experience, etc.
Staying circle one is actually quite counter-intuitive.
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Yep.
Also, the TDPs gained from circling 29 times will allow you to buy dozens of stat points which will help you circle faster. More wisdom/intelligence for bigger experience pulses, more strength and agility for more weapon damage and thus more experience, etc.
Staying circle one is actually quite counter-intuitive.
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Doctor: Are you Alliance?
Early: Am I lion? Huh. I don't think of myself as a lion. But you might as well have a mighty roar!
Honestly, I wonder if this got tempered a bit. I have played other characters who in the early ranks would get "You've gained 2 ranks.." rapidly. This has never happened to Ackfer.
On the TDP training front, the usefulness of different stats seems to change a lot (or new facts are revealed/discovered). So I am bringing everything up evenly together.
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
On the TDP training front, the usefulness of different stats seems to change a lot (or new facts are revealed/discovered). So I am bringing everything up evenly together.
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
>>On the TDP training front, the usefulness of different stats seems to change a lot (or new facts are revealed/discovered). So I am bringing everything up evenly together.
Magic-heavy guilds tend to be much more forgiving of character builds that neglect several stats, so this is probably a good idea.
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Doctor: Are you Alliance?
Early: Am I lion? Huh. I don't think of myself as a lion. But you might as well have a mighty roar!
Magic-heavy guilds tend to be much more forgiving of character builds that neglect several stats, so this is probably a good idea.
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Doctor: Are you Alliance?
Early: Am I lion? Huh. I don't think of myself as a lion. But you might as well have a mighty roar!
>>On the TDP training front, the usefulness of different stats seems to change a lot (or new facts are revealed/discovered). So I am bringing everything up evenly together.
Paladins don't have a dump stat. Though if you really had to let something go, you'll possibly miss Intelligence and Wisdom the least -- though keep in mind the Halt discussion that just happened.
Regardless of guild or race, I consider getting every stat to 20 the first significant milestone of character growth.
-Armifer
"It is no longer possible to escape men. Farewell to the monsters, farewell to the saints. Farewell to pride. All that is left is men."
- Jean-Paul Sartre
Paladins don't have a dump stat. Though if you really had to let something go, you'll possibly miss Intelligence and Wisdom the least -- though keep in mind the Halt discussion that just happened.
Regardless of guild or race, I consider getting every stat to 20 the first significant milestone of character growth.
-Armifer
"It is no longer possible to escape men. Farewell to the monsters, farewell to the saints. Farewell to pride. All that is left is men."
- Jean-Paul Sartre
<<Ackfer: I am really enjoying your posts on your progression. Keep the coming.>>
Righteo. :)
On another note, I am seeing a lot of young Paladins floating around (or at least people wandering around with the Initiate Paladin title and some in goblins). Suprised not too many questions on the boards from these new people.
My fave ability thus far is Protect. Love it.
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
Righteo. :)
On another note, I am seeing a lot of young Paladins floating around (or at least people wandering around with the Initiate Paladin title and some in goblins). Suprised not too many questions on the boards from these new people.
My fave ability thus far is Protect. Love it.
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
I agree. Protect is fantastic. None of my previous characters, no matter how big they got, have ever really made me feel as heroic as being able to run in a room and protect someone with my tower shield. Sure, other guilds can run in and try to kill everything in the room, but if they are swarmed and getting beat badly... you probably wouldn't be able to kill things fast enough to make a difference. And dragging someone out of a swarm always seemed just a little unrealistic and OOC to me.
>Honestly, I wonder if this got tempered a bit. I have played other characters who in the early ranks would get "You've gained 2 ranks.." rapidly. This has never happened to Ackfer.
There was a bug causing ranks to think they were only as big as the previous rank during the first pulse. It was the primary reason this happened before and got fixed a while ago.
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There was a bug causing ranks to think they were only as big as the previous rank during the first pulse. It was the primary reason this happened before and got fixed a while ago.
~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact
Ruea says, "I swear, I'm forsaking Damaris and building an altar to you."
"I am Captain America (and so can you!)" - http://i25.tinypic.com/157m7a1.jpg
I was told once upon a time that paladins should keep stats fairly even when cashing in TDP's. I have never, not, used that advice, but I have never noticed any particular disadvantages, with the possible exception of needing to bring int/wis inline faster to use certain spells. I tend to raise stats in groups of 5-10 points each based on what I was told were related pairs. So I'll raise combat stats first in pairs: str/stam. When both are up by 5 or 10 I raise agil/ref by 5 each, then int/wis (for learning rate) then disc/char. Rinse repeat. From what I've seen here I should reconsider switching my last 2 pairs, as I like to use magic a fair bit in combat, but at 5-10 points variance at any point it is never a huge issue.
I agree, interesting discussion. I recall having whispered discussions such as this in the Crossing hall. That doesn't seem to happen any more so it is even more interesting to see the opinions of others in this forum.
Cheers
I agree, interesting discussion. I recall having whispered discussions such as this in the Crossing hall. That doesn't seem to happen any more so it is even more interesting to see the opinions of others in this forum.
Cheers
>>Paladins don't have a dump stat. Though if you really had to let something go, you'll possibly miss Intelligence and Wisdom the least -- though keep in mind the Halt discussion that just happened.
And also keep in mind that Intelligence and Wisdom are the two stats that factor into perception, a skill you'll have to actively work on if you want to guard against stealing and stealth attacks.
~Thilan
And also keep in mind that Intelligence and Wisdom are the two stats that factor into perception, a skill you'll have to actively work on if you want to guard against stealing and stealth attacks.
~Thilan
Honestly, I haven't bothered with perception. Firstly, I don't have anything to train it and secondly it seems like a race with a guild that has it as primary and learns it in the normal course of their activities. Was just going to take my theft lumps and deal.
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
Ackfer - Halfling in a Can, No Fillers Here!
>>I agree. Protect is fantastic. None of my previous characters, no matter how big they got, have ever really made me feel as heroic as being able to run in a room and protect someone with my tower shield. Sure, other guilds can run in and try to kill everything in the room, but if they are swarmed and getting beat badly... you probably wouldn't be able to kill things fast enough to make a difference. And dragging someone out of a swarm always seemed just a little unrealistic and OOC to me.
Heh, this reminds me of an odd story regarding protect. I had set "protect assess cover" while helping someone train. When we were done, I forgot to turn it off and went walking through vines on the way back to Theren. As I entered a room with two hunters, one of the hunters got badly off balance which will "trigger" the protect to cover them.. so I stopped to see what was going on.. and got griped at by the hunter because my protecting him was interfering with his training <grin>. As I muttered to myself.. "It takes ALL kinds in this game".
Redarch
Dwarf with an Axe.. Watch your toes!
Heh, this reminds me of an odd story regarding protect. I had set "protect assess cover" while helping someone train. When we were done, I forgot to turn it off and went walking through vines on the way back to Theren. As I entered a room with two hunters, one of the hunters got badly off balance which will "trigger" the protect to cover them.. so I stopped to see what was going on.. and got griped at by the hunter because my protecting him was interfering with his training <grin>. As I muttered to myself.. "It takes ALL kinds in this game".
Redarch
Dwarf with an Axe.. Watch your toes!
there seems to be a bug with the task system and protect though.
I was training my commoner, and having my paladin protect, as without my paladin there to protect, my commoner was getting wiped out. My commoner was assigned to kill 5 cougars. Even though my commoner was doing all the killing, they don't get the credit for the kills with the task system.
<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>
I was training my commoner, and having my paladin protect, as without my paladin there to protect, my commoner was getting wiped out. My commoner was assigned to kill 5 cougars. Even though my commoner was doing all the killing, they don't get the credit for the kills with the task system.
<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>
