Hey all,

There are a few things I would love to see implemented in our shops.

1) The ability to SORT the items on tables, chests, racks, etc...
Most customers are aware of the SHOP verb, which makes the items much
easier to see. But to be able to SORT items on the surfaces would be
a huge boon, especially since the items seem to filter every day.
I.E. what was once on the top of the list has filtered to the bottom.
Shoppers could SHOP a surface and see an orderly list of what's on
each table, making the shopping process easier, and faster, in identifying
what they're looking for. Also, it would remove the need for the trader
to retag and reposition items on a daily basis.



2) A legend similar to the board at the entry to the plaza listing the shops
and what they sell. This legend/sign would assign a letter to those items
whose special properties aren't easily identifiable. For example, a wiggle
gown could be assigned a W at the end of the price tag. Or a reversable
container or robe could have an R at the end of the price tag. Often, the
STUDY verb doesn't tell you all an item can do. I've also been told that
the STUDY verb doesn't work on the tables and surfaces in a shop. Not sure
if that's entirely true since I haven't tested it on items in other shops.


Cheers,
Mellicent

On the study verb, there is a reason for that, if you put an open compendium on a shop table people would be able to gather free first aid and scholarship experience, etc.

Regards,

Sortny/Braunwen

I'd love to see some way to sort items on surfaces, although it seems likely to be more GM work than it's worth.

I'd be pretty happy with just seeing items STAY in the order that we originally put them down in, instead of repopulating in random orders periodically (and even this request may be more work than it's worth, I dunno how it works behind the scenes). I actually made a script at one point to take all the items off a particular surface and then put them back down in the order I wanted, but any method of sorting items doesn't really work if they shift order on their own

Apu
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something i've always thought should be there are the prices for items when you just shop a table

so you shop table

and on the walnut-diamond encrusted unicorn-dusted floating hexagonal birdcage you see :
some horse dung priced at 3839249 kronars
17 quads priced at 24 kronars

>>something i've always thought should be there are the prices for items when you just shop a table
>Hmm. I actually kind of like that a lot. ponder.

As a shopper: Yes please.

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>>something i've always thought should be there are the prices for items when you just shop a table

Thirded. Or fourthed, or whatever.

Also... I've always really wanted something like this:

>ask guard about gweth sale
A plaza guard says, "Ah yes! You'll find that:
Trader A is selling that for X amount
Trader B is selling that for Y amount
Trader C is selling that for Z amount

Probably impossible, but I can dream.


-- Player of Eyuve

>> As a shopper: Yes please.

Done :)

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

Did any of these changes perhaps make the shops in Riverhaven 'disappear' when not open? Or was this an intended change? Only because people like looking at the entryways and checking 'open' times. :)

~Player of Crimsondae

Yay! That was fast! Thanks bunches!

Decided to add this in for all shops too, not just trader shops. :)

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

>>That new feature is SO awesome, I can't believe nobody thought of it sooner!

At first I thought it was annoying and cluttered (mostly because the change wreaked some easily havoc on my highlight strings), but within about 60 seconds I was like "how the hell did we live without this change before?"

Apu
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As usual, this rocks. Thank you :)

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>>Is there any way we could get something like what accidently happened to be permenant, and have some other way for people to figure out when shops opened and closed.

I think most people use the guard - ASK GUARD ABOUT [shop] will take you to the shop, ASK GUARD ABOUT [lobby] will take you to the lobby, and you can use the board to find out what shops are open.

If you're rather wander, you can LOOK [door|entrance|arch] to see if the shop is open.

As far as making the doors themselves disappear, that's something I'm thinking about. I may add a flag where you can turn it on or off, kind of like SET. It'd go into the FLAG verb.

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

Currently: When asking the guard about a shop that is closed, the guard tells you it's closed and the earliest it's open, but not tell you what room it's in.

Would it be possible to be taken to the room the shop is in if you ask again, or at least be told what room it's in? It would be a convenience to be able to look at the [entrance] of a shop that I know OF, to find the name of the owner and hours of operation, without having to go searching the entire plaza.

Naniaki

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>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear

>> It would be a convenience to be able to look at the [entrance] of a shop that I know OF, to find the name of the owner and hours of operation, without having to go searching the entire plaza.

I'm vastly more likely to put that information in the guard's speech. That seems like the right choice.

>>numbers on shops

There's unfortunately no easy way to number the shops like that in a guaranteed order. It's extremely likely that they'd always happen to come up in the same order but I'd not be confident with a numbering scheme that relies on "happen to". I'm honestly ok with the notion that if a trader makes a name for his or her shop with one name and then changes it, customers might not be able to find the same shop as easily.

>>remembering numbers you read on the lobby board is a lot easier than remembering shop names.

I think this is actually not necessarily something we can take for truth. The human brain is a very complex thing, and language is complex on top of that. I'd be willing to guess that in general, there are some people that remember numbers and some people that remember words more frequently. I don't have handy studies to back this up, and if anybody finds anything conclusive I'd be interested to read it, but to me it seems like just as some people are better with numbered, gridded streets and some people are better with named streets with no notion of a grid necessary, so too are some people better able to remember numbered shops and others better able to remember named shops.

Long story short, I'm probably not going to let you ask about shop ## - This kind of breaks the immersion and obviates the consumer from having the slightest mote of responsibility, neither of which I want to encourage.

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.