The Arcane circle spell documentation on the website has been updated:

http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=14

GameMaster Estild
Cleric/Empath Team

>With these spells that are considered native to a specific circle, will elemental detection cast by an appropriately skilled caster reveal the spell?

You gesture and invoke the powers of the elements for the Elemental Detection spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a green coral wand.
You sense that the wand is a magic item with an unknown spell from an unfamiliar realm of magic and it is not well suited for duplicating.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

-Sea Wizard

SEND[Lothwyn] Please tell me you did not just meteor swarm Velathae. I will be most unhappy.

405 needs an overhaul all it's own. It needs to be able to detect out of circle spells and more information like charges remaining with enough lore or mana control training.


Otherwise it is quite silly a level 20 wizard can detect pretty much as good as a level 100 one.

Virilneus
Fix Sorcerer Training Costs
http://www.virilneus.com/blog/2009/05/14/sorcerer-training-costs/
Math Doesn't Lie.
Give Sorcerers Minor Mental
http://www.virilneus.com/blog/2009/07/05/give-sorcerers-minor-mental/

I think they're coming RSN.

Has anyone tried Flaming Aura yet?

Missoni.

That is the plan!

When I first read 1750 being released I thought it was Spell 750 for Sorcerers.

In my opinion if it was a sorcerer version and it allowed us to cast forbidden spells like 318. Would Clerics actually mind if it cost a Sorcerer 68 mana to Raise Dead?

Or even the spell 1109. For a sorcerer to gain the benefits of that spell. It would cost them 59 mana for a base line cast. Of course if you wanted to recast 1109 to stack, it would cost an additionl 59 mana.

It would probably seem unbalancing. But for 50 mana to cast 750. + the mana cost of one of the other spells. It would seem like a nice 50th level spell.


Peace

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Is there any Elemental Lore which can increase the base crowd # of Major Acid/1710, or is that stuck at the 1-8 range forever?

"wawawawait.... bards can target a spell on a scroll for unraveling when we, sorcerers, have to do a crap shoot with 714?" -- Virilneus

Did you trouble yourself to read the spell description for Decoy/1701 and my question, or do you just automatically assume that everyone's out to screw Sorcerers?

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Ahem.

To clarify:
- Decoy is a spell which is worn by a target (creature, player-character).
- When it is so worn, it will be automatically targeted first by dispelling spells <samples listed in said spell description>.
- Unravel/1013 can, when cast at a target (creature, player-character), be used to attempt the removal of a specific spell.
+ My question, therefor, was whether Unravel was specifically excluded based on that capability.
* Was there any mention of "scroll" in there anywhere? (Or "infusion" or "sorcerer" or anything like that, either?)

Given that a number of these spells seem to target "anyone not grouped with the caster," how are we looking as far as the group hiding issue?

The L behind the Laphrael

Eugenides: If any dare see her Paladin outfit, they will fall to their knees in ecstacy.
Eugenides: Sheer fear? Pfh. Sheer sexy.

LORDKRIP

With these spells that are considered native to a specific circle, will elemental detection cast by an appropriately skilled caster reveal the spell?

No, they will sense an unknown spell from a familiar realm of magic. I'll have to check into the issue with coral wands.

GRANTA

With those spells being native to the Wizard circle, will they get spell hindrance as part of the Wizard Circle? Also, is there a hindrance chart for the Arcane Circle on its own, or does it copy another circle?

Yes, an arcane spell will use the spell hindrance of its native circle. If it is not native to any circle, it will mimic the Sorcerers circle spell hindrance. This is not yet live though.

GameMaster Estild
Cleric/Empath Team

Yes, I have read the spell description, months ago, in fact in the last few days when someone posted wondering what it did, it was I who told them.

It doesn't change the fact that your question was ambiguous.


Virilneus
Fix Sorcerer Training Costs
http://www.virilneus.com/blog/2009/05/14/sorcerer-training-costs/
Math Doesn't Lie.
Give Sorcerers Minor Mental
http://www.virilneus.com/blog/2009/07/05/give-sorcerers-minor-mental/

You glance down to see a golden scroll in your right hand and nothing in your left hand.
>1013 scroll
Voodoo '1013 scroll' to 'PREPARE 1013', 'CAST AT scroll'.
You begin your musical chant for Song of Unravelling...
[Spellsong preparation time: 10 seconds]
Your spellsong is ready.
>
You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a golden scroll.
The scroll buzzes and vibrates for a moment then stops.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.


>glance
You glance down to see a twisted wand in your right hand and nothing in your left hand.
>1013 wand
Voodoo '1013 wand' to 'PREPARE 1013', 'CAST AT wand'.
You begin your musical chant for Song of Unravelling...
[Spellsong preparation time: 10 seconds]
Your spellsong is ready.
>
You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a twisted wand.
Faintly visible threads of mana begin to unravel themselves from the twisted wand and wind towards you.
Mana washes over you like a soaked sponge! You struggle to maintain control over the surge in power!
You gain 1 mana!
The wand begins to shake violently and disintegrates into a thousand tiny particles of dust!
The faint tendrils quickly dissipate.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>belch
You belch.


Magic items. Check.

Scrolls. No check.

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You search the sea griffin.
It had a wooden arrow, a wooden arrow.
It had a white gryphon's wing shell on it!

I don't even bother with wands--about the only thing Charge Item is still good for--because of the hassle, never mind scrolls. A single cast of Duplicate/918 and you're done: already 2x the mana and no long involved ritual with stones or gems or any of that muck.
(Although with scrolls' ability to hold more than a single kind of spell, there's probably a huge mana reserve there. Hmm... Then again, that's probably why it doesn't work.)

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Speaking of:
Does Duplicate still work on the Arcane wands? (If not, why not?)
Does Duplicate work on any of the other items (bronze squares, cubes, orbs, whatnot)? (If not, why not?)

At the very least the wands (steam is the only new one, isn't it?) should be Duplicable.

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Ooh! (I was reading through the list and had a thunk.) Flaming Aura/1706/[granite triangle spell] should be able to be found in a wand and on a scroll (or used with Fashionable Gift/1750) for "channel" usage:
- if you "cast" (or rub, or wave with no target [== self]) then you get the hovering aura that lashes out;
- if you "channel <target>" (or wave the wand) then it's a CS spell that puts the aura around the target and releases all cycles of flares in the duration of the spell immediately, damaging the affected target. [Kind of like Call Lightning/125 with enough Lore.]

Well, he did say will be able to, not are able to.

It gives us something to look forward to :-)

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I have a mystic focus recharhgeable that cant be charged. Could be because its bugged and not supposed to be mystic focus though.

GBB

GBB

I have a mystic focus recharhgeable that cant be charged. Could be because its bugged and not supposed to be mystic focus though.

No. Once the update goes live, it will apply to new standard Arcane trinkets (small statues, quartz orbs) that drop (not existing items). Random treasure drops with Arcane spells are unrelated.

GameMaster Estild
Cleric/Empath Team

>Will all Arcane spells be found on scrolls 1701-1750?

I'd have to go back and find the post, but I think one of the GM's already answered this as a yes.

Bummer that mystic focus lasts only a flat 5 minutes. Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't it used to be 10?


Droit

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A drunken sailor wanders by, muttering about some "accursed kids" and "their dog."

<<The Arcane circle spell documentation on the website has been updated:

<<http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=14 -- ESTILD

Awesome!

I see there are 12 spells listed. Six of them are listed as being native to the Wizard circle, one is listed as being native to the Minor Spiritual circle and the rest have no native spell circle listed. Are more spells considered for the Arcane circle, and if so, will those spells have other spell circles listed as their native one?