>And there is not a different message in your task searches

Actually, there is.


Doctor Kerrian Runegazer
Citizen of Ilithi

has anyone tested with a forage task on herbs that are obtainable via the herb shops if its possible to steal the herb and give it rather than forage it?


schvartz, who steals Much better than forages


<<If nothing else, maybe some Magic Using guilds will now feel the joys of "You cannot steal here.", at least for a while.--Solomon>>

>> jaguars

Okay, that's freaking bizarre.

If someone has been assigned to kill jaguars, can you please let me know? I just checked over all of the possible critters and none of them show as being a jaguar. Doesn't mean it's not there, but it means it may be getting mis-set somewhere.

-GM Obseden
"To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven."
"Anything's possible. Especially since I'm rewriting the system."

>If someone has been assigned to kill jaguars, can you please let me know? I just checked over all of the possible critters and none of them show as being a jaguar. Doesn't mean it's not there, but it means it may be getting mis-set somewhere.

It was in plat, if it matters. I've gotten it 3 or 4 times now. Want me to accept it and let you know next time? I just keep declining them.

~Chris.

>>has anyone tested with a forage task on herbs that are obtainable via the herb shops if its possible to steal the herb and give it rather than forage it?

As long as it's exactly the item being asked for, it doesn't matter where, how, when, or why you got your hands on it. If you want to steal, you can steal. If you want to grub in the dirt, you can forage. If you want to clean out the 7 years of crap in your vault, clean out your vault. If your best friend was able to attend some event where those items just magically fell out of the sky 6 years ago and he's still rubbing it in that you couldn't go, knock him upside the head, grab the items, and turn them in.

GR-flagged items and other special situations where GMs generally want you to keep ahold of the item for some duration may or may not interfere with the task completion, however.

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html

Nimmi in plat has it now, if it helps.

ask beggar for task
An old blind beggar says, "I do have a small task I'd like for you to perform. I need 8 jaguar pelts. If you could get those for me, I would greatly appreciate it."
[You may accept by typing ACCEPT TASK, or decline by typing DECLINE TASK]
>accept task
an old blind beggar says, "Well, then. Get to it. Remember, I need 8 jaguar pelts.

Please let me know when you're done so I can clear it and get a new task (or fill my haversack with 8 jaguar pelts - either works.) :-)

~Chris

Thanks much, Obs.

~Chris

who is anthelorm and where can he be found?

>>east side of town holds his shop

West side, just north of Noel's arms.

~Dalkin~

Here are some numbers based on the methods I'm using and which I spoke of in the post I made. The following is strictly based off what I have personally done with Mags and his foraging tasks, using a circle 1 cleric with 11 ranks of foraging.

1)he'll only ask you to find twigs (this will soon change as he updates the foraging tasks to take better advantage of the full range of forageable items, so we'll probably end up with groups of items similar to how the Compendium divides them)

2)he'll ask you to find anywhere from 3 to 22 (maybe a few more), with the average being something like 8-15

3)minimum payment is around 116 copper, maximum is 445 or so

4)it takes me anywhere from 42 minutes to 59 minutes to forage 500 twigs using FORAGE TWIG exclusively (this time includes the use of STOW), depending on what my actual RTs are (42 = all 4-second RTs, 59 = all 6-second RTs)

5)were I to do nothing but accept tasks and give Mags the 500 items, it'd only take me 10 minutes to do so (includes time for bank runs)

6)Using the various larger containers (duffel bags, backpacks, etc), I estimate I have the raw ability (without having to stuff anything into the vault) to physically hold at least 2000 items if not the full 3000 representing an hour's worth of task activity via #5. Because of safeguards built into the game, however, I'll never actually get anywhere close without a GM knowing about it and forcing me to dump them (via teleportation to the junk room) or simply destroying the character with massive data corruption merely from holding that many items.

7)based on the unrealistic and possibly artificially-prevented-via-code worst/best possible cases as defined by the extremes listed in #3, the absolute least I can actually make is 5.5625 plat per hour and the absolute most is roughly 10 plat per hour. Again, Obseden and the GMs have probably accounted for this in terms of probabilities and randomization so while this might be technically possible I really doubt anyone will see this sort of return (we'll all be somewhere in the middle).

8)as the amount of items per task rises, the rate of return decreases (the 5.5 plat referenced in #7 was based on 125 tasks asking for 24 items per task, and the 10 plat was based on something like 1000 tasks asking for 3 items per task.) This may also be accounted for if the items asked for rises as you rank, but I don't know the rate at which this might occur so it might go quickly or it might go slow enough to watch the coin-count drop.

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html

its still not in TF. :-(


<<If nothing else, maybe some Magic Using guilds will now feel the joys of "You cannot steal here.", at least for a while.--Solomon>>

The system will be expanded off the mainland eventually, but we're still balancing the rewards of the system itself.

-GM Obseden
"To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven."
"Anything's possible. Especially since I'm rewriting the system."

additionally, delivery tasks may "pay more", but skinning tasks could be tweaked in the opposite direction.

Because if i bring fara x skins, i can definately make more coin by selling the skins. particualy when she asks for anything about bloodwolf or croc level skins. Obviously I wouldn't even bother doing a skinning task with my ranger <who has arrange>.

Additionally, the skinning tasks need to be geared more to the skill of the character. They were way too easy. Goblin skins for my trader <70s skinning> Eel skins for one of my barbs (158 skinning>. Serpent skins for my thief <270 skinning>. Way too easy and the payout too low.


<<If nothing else, maybe some Magic Using guilds will now feel the joys of "You cannot steal here.", at least for a while.--Solomon>>

I'm really sorry to see that folks are scripting this to make ridiculous amounts of coin.

Without scripting (athough using macros) I haven't been able to make more than about a plat and a half in a half hour that produces an intensive workout for both fingers and eyes (I also haven't been tempted to try for longer because this is exhausting!).

The plat and a half for 30 minutes is still good coin.

I'd like to see the payout for each individual task not drop too much but to make it impossible to complete more than X number of tasks (5-10?) every X (3-8?) hours *in game*.

<<People making 20 platinum on a single arrow was hurting the economy, so 20 platinum an hour is more of a minor snag compared to stuff like that.>>

People selling an arrow for 20 plat is not generating money -- it only moves money around.

An NPC giving you 20 plat adds wealth thus causing inflation resulting in a 20 plat arrow.

As the value of a plat goes down ... player prices go up.

-Ssra

"He had a lot to say. He had a lot of nothing to say."

I meant broken in the sense of an individual amassing wealth. But for straight up inflation, I'll use the example of Dobeks before their ruby drop rate was downtweaked. A ~50 moonmage with MB, SLS, CRS and CG could make hundreds of platinums a day without much trouble. There are still creatures like this, though nothing so exploitable that I know of.

Anyway, for the task system, I'd like to see a player offered maybe 2-3 tasks before the NPC says "All right, I see that you're not interested in helping me today." Then you wait until the next day to ask for a task. As in, you can either do all 2-3 or you can go through them and try to pick one closest/most convenient. The rewards for a single task would go up.

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heh If you really want to see the abuse of scripting on the system let TF'rs have at it


Denz

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Well I hope to see that along with other reasonable tweaks, like "why does the beggar want me to kill things on the other part of the planet?" Or getting 3 identical offers in a row.

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>And for people like myself who have multiple premium accounts

blink why........

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[You're smashed up, winded, off balance with opponent in superior position.]

>berserk stone
[You're invigorated, invigorated, incredibly balanced and in good position.]

Thank you. I just started plotting "if you can't beat them, join them," so this saves me from a moral dillema. ;p

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>dance sprite
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